-Comes with 2 sets of J-Cups allowing for 2 squat positions Odd I didn’t reply to everything or replied to the wrong message. Let me know if you end up getting a chance to try out one of these rigs with the 41.5″ tubes, and how it goes when you fold them onto each other. Trying to decide whether to get those or Spotter Arms like he recommends in the R4 review. I like the SML-2. You will also need a pull-up bar, and those are already built into power racks and many squat stands. Zero feedback of any kind. R4, I think they mainly realized the orange color didn’t fit everyone’s decor. Wonder Bars I believe they are called. I don’t like it much because it has no cross-members for the legs; which is probably exactly why it has a 400-capacity. If you think about it though, guys squatted massive amounts of weight using nothing but old school independent squat stands for years. I have carpet in my room where I plan to put the rack. The Rogue is clearly better quality built and I even like the look better but it’s just seems too expensive for me. That’s great that it all fits well enough for incline! Either way, it’s a very small amount of material compared to a bumper plate or something like that, so the smell won’t linger for long. Such a great feature to have. Since you at least have access to a gym to fill in what you can’t do at home, you can pretty much buy in whatever order you want. Was thinking of getting their rack, bar, plates, bench and also maybe a set of 5-50 dumb (still not sure if I should rather go with one of those mutli system, bowflex or the other). No. Upgrade the RML-690 to a RML-690C and you get access to 11 colors with a 10-14 day lead time rather than 6-8 weeks! I also tell people looking at racks to ask themselves why they aren’t looking at full-size squat stands (squat + pullup with spotter arms) and half racks. Just something to think about. Around 101″ for the 40.5″ one. Love this site, thanks for all of the information. A pull up bar is a must for me. On paper, it looks great – but so does the Titan, which most of us know isn’t great at all. Unfortunately, the spotter arms are optional and an extra expense. It’s a beefy rack and the price is completely reasonable; especially if you can wheel and deal out that embedded shipping by being local. The “28 of 30 Sold” seems to be hard-coded on the page, not actually variables pulling from anywhere else. Pro Maxima is more of a classic commercial dealer. Thanks. Ya I hadn’t thought about that, Mike. Just felt compelled to give a sincere thank-you for these articles. The 4000 is basically an RML, and I don’t see any reasons not to consider it. I don’t see much value in the features the other racks offer. I also think they missed the boat on their hole diameter/pattern. If you got that for $900 shipped and have the space for it, it’s not the worst thing, but I think you’re spending way too close to Rogue prices to limit your upgrade options and to potentially find that your bench spotters are in the middle of two sets of holes – something you’ll never know until you have it. That knee theory is nonsense unless you plan on jumping up and down on your platform for hours on end. If ever a rack didn’t need to be anchored, it’s this one. However, they say nothing about using band pegs on the RM-390. It was a good price when it was released because there was less direct competition for bushing-based Oly trainers, but there are so many of them now, and the only other variations that cost $399 or more are stainless steel. A traditional power rack, or even an open-ended squat rack, takes up a painful amount of space. I think one allowed an 18″ and no one recommended 24″. I wish you received their IM2000 self spotting System too. Nice. var inc = ‘1’; It’s not wimpy. The HR-2 is my top choice at the moment, but I’ve reviewed Promaxima’s catalog as well because they’re in-state and commercial grade. This is one of those racks that should give you all the reason you need to not buy something like a Titan rack simply because you can’t afford the expensive racks. I suppose the rack will be delivered in various parts so that transporting them up to the room should be no issue? Not so fast. Same price though? One additional question related to resistance bands – have you used Vulcan’s bands? You know that step up towards the back wall? Can y’all tell me the advantages of the R3 over the Powertech? It also comes with the plate storage horns (10 total.). The 40.5″ deep doesn’t fold in neatly to the wall and will overlap unless you fold them one in and one out, which takes up more wall space. I was wondering your opinion on this new line. I’m actually 6’4″ myself. Awesome feedback – you really helped me make my decisions. I’ve owned a Rogue HR-2 Half Rack and now own a Rogue RML-490C Power Rack. I don’t know where you live, but there’s a used, full commercial, double-sided power rack on eBay in Ohio. I wouldn’t buy a rack based on the cable attachment thing, but that’s just me. To be fair, if you’re not working with a lot of weight, and you’re not an exceptionally heavy guy that would test the strength of a pull-up bar, it will probably be fine for years. Why would I then need to put anything under the rack? Then pull 4 pins from the rack hinges and fold both arms against the wall. Just another option; less bolts if I remember correctly, more welds. I think you’ll be fine with one set-up. As I said in my first post: This is exactly where free stands come into play, but they are not as rigid and always make you think if you want to go for the last rep…. I’d eventually get it anchored to something though. And with a ” U” the stand is missing the top cross piece. Just curious to hear if anybody has any experience or recommendations. CrossFit, I mean, I don’t have a problem with Rogue’s rack prices as they are, so any savings is a good thing. This is by far the coolest squat stand I’ve seen, and one of the beefiest. I’m keeping an eye on CL for the 120lb upgrade kit myself, which will probably only come with an extra pair of handles…, Yeah but you know what, my dumbbell rack is on the 4′ wide raised area of the garage. You don’t get the flip-down safety option and a few other random accessories that are only on the Monsters, but it’s just as much rack. var currentmyRandom=”; Rogue’s racks are all fairly new or updated models, with the way they sell such high volume and get things upgraded or replaced pretty quickly as features improve. As in, if you were on a bare foundation it would probably slide around very easily, but on rubber flooring much less. as I certainly prefer my recent TSS/Rogue set-up! Imagine trying to find tall ppl equipment! Also gonna do some thinking on the 390F, and I’ll give Fitness Factory a call about the SPR1000. Anybody tried this combination before? I do kipping on mine sometimes. 2×3 11-gauge will handle more weight than any person can squat. 3×3 is only half of what’s important, need the gauge as well. I am in Charlotte, NC so I get a discount for picking up directly from Vulcan so the two are very similar price points. Let’s talk about the best air bike (airbike) for 2020. Retail price is $1495. The Rogue R-3 Power Rack is one of Rogue’s Westside-inspired power racks and is easily one of their best selling products. I will order it then. I hope I’m making sense here btw – let me know if you need any clarification. I actually wasn’t aware of that, but I suppose all the attention is on that 4000 line now. The qualityRogue’s quality is the highest and most consistent. SML, Anyway, here, free stands seem to be just the solution…. The R3 can be had in 24″ or 30″ depth. HR-2 will cost more in the long run though because of the plate horns and spotter arms. Just curious if anyone has seen one, has one, or used one? Just bought an RML-390F with the fixin’s and was curious what, if any, benefit the sandwich style are versus the regular? Interesting what you said about your bench. It has been a great guide while planning out my home gym. Yeah so I’m a big fan of half racks like the HR-2. You could store a power rack in a space that size, but not actually get real use out of it. If that floor is 3/4″ plywood and you put a couple anchors per foot, you’ll be fine. Your site has been incredibly helpful so thank you very much. 3″x3″ 11-gauge steel, flat base, safety strap compatible, and about $800 before add-ons. Can you tell me reasons not to buy a lat tower? The Squat stands seem more pricey I suppose because you don’t have to bolt them down. Thanks for this article. It’s an okay price; gets better the more weight is involved. The above shows why. I like this one as it folds down vs swinging across the floor like the Rogue system. It’s been working pretty well, but the foot print is massive. They tend to do a good job with that line compared to some of their lesser, lighter-duty lines. It has much more quality than I expected at this price. For instance, UHMW is used instead of rubber slabs on J-cups, and the washer was removed from the spotter arms. The PR-4000 Power Rack is Rep’s answer to the Rogue RML line of power racks. These improvements could be worth the $50 price difference over the T-3. I like Fringe’s because it’s heavier duty, and compatible with the Infinity line for accessories. As a result, one often touches, sometimes even really hurts the elbows badly when pressing 256+ pounds. It deserves to be on your shortlist. 3×3 is considered generally more heavy duty and stable feeling. I can’t seem to find many reviews of those racks, although I’ve noticed you have given favorable reviews to some of their machines. Assuming that you continue to train (and I try to assume that’s everyone’s goal) you will probably outgrow that light-duty line. Holy Epic Review Batman! Sorry for the number of questions/comments. Sorry, didn’t see your response on the PRX one above. Even if you think 24″ is too small, 30″ is so much space for taking a step back and moving the bar straight up and down. Still though, while they aren’t my first or second choice, they aren’t my last either. So…I won’t be testing the limits on any equipment any time soon (or ever). The Rogue RML-390C is a slightly upgraded version of the RML-3 Power Rack. Look at the image below. I couldn’t go heavy because I couldn’t keep it on my back for low bar…, Actually, I changed my mind. :-), I don’t know anything about that company, no. I have taken the single pull-up bar because I don’t think using the fat/skinny makes sense? You kind of want your rack to be a one-time purchase, or at least modular so changes can be made inexpensively. The rack starts at just over $620; there are upgrades that raise the price and even a couple downgrades that lower this base price. If you’re a monster and you can row 300-pounds of a weight stack in a gym, maybe you shouldn’t do this on anything but an anchored unit. Even beefier than the R-3 and RML-3 covered above, the RM-3 Bolt Together and RM-390 Flat Foot are as solid as they come. Thanks! It is worth pointing out is that you can add this or any Vulcan rack to a bar+bumper set at a discounted price; $100 off in the case of this Flat Foot. While still very reminiscent of just about any other half rack, the Edge has the added benefit of two enormous 1/2″ thick plates at the base of the rack that adds considerable weight and stability to the rack. ( * vs. a new Rogue S-2 v2.0 with spotter arms delivered for $649), While I had rather solid plans to go with a Rogue SML-2 with spotter bars, Rep is the only manufacturer to offer a folding rack in a 3×3 only model. Several things on the page are odd. If you won’t spend over $200 on a bar, look at the Echo or used bars, not the Beater. For instance, the bar catchers suck and should have just been normal J-cups (see below). It looks like the older brother of the XMark Half Rack. As a garage or basement squat rack, bare concrete can be just fine, depending on what else you have going on with your gym. It would be a great idea though if that were not the case. You are quite the deal hunter. That rack doesn’t look bad. I just wasn’t sure how much of a difference it was, given that the SPR1000 is intended for full commercial use. Yes, I like the flip-down safeties the most for a rack like that. Rogue gives a lifetime warranty so why not go cheaper. There’s plenty to compare between the brands I’ve selected, and in this case they can’t be explained in a comparison chart. But this is an end-all-be-all, the pins and holes need to match as well. Sorry Tom, just saw this! Rogue sells more of these types of units than anybody else, and in their own factory in Columbus, OH, while other companies outsource to China and aren’t able to unpackage and inspect most of the units. I’ve thought about the thinner gauge steel but I’m thinking it *shouldn’t* matter for me (yet). I’m going to start the 5×5 training program and I’m essentially new to all of this. When it came down to cost, the difference was only about $300, regardless of any attachments being included. So i’m having a hard time pulling the trigger. I know you Canadians have a hard time with gear choices sometimes. Have you heard anything regarding those sites with respect to potential discounts at the end of next month? Fold either side in or out. I’ve asked them for a quote on the FW163, which including the weight storage on the back of the rack weighs a hefty 400 lbs or so (they claim 2″ X 3″ 11 ga steel tubing) . If you won’t be adding any accessories, or they have the ones you’d want at reasonable prices, then gopher it. After a lot of researching I have narrowed down my choices to either the HR-2 or the RML-490.
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