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If Winchester truly intended for the .350 Legend to be a .357 project then why are the first reamers cut to .355? There are a few problems with this answer. Gone in 60 Seconds - Where’d all the silencers go? Glad to see some kill feedback. Nor do I have to try and impress someone with a $ 3000.00 smokeless powder muzzleloader that shoots 400 yards. Apparently little known fact that the French bought every 351 and 401 on hand and millions of rounds of 351 Ammo during WWI. I was interested in a 9mm for an MPX and was thrilled to see the Rugged Obsidian 9 on this list. Like many of you I was against this 350 Legend thing in the worse way early on to and wanted nothing to do with it cuz I’m a 450 Bm fan and have been since they first came out. Josh Wayner is a Michigan native, active competitor, Grand Valley State University alumni, troublemaker, and fiction author. I only did that to see if I could do it. When I saw the 350 Legend at the SHOT show back in January, I immediately wanted to test how it performed on feral hogs. Most, including the 240 yrd kill, dropped right there and the one ones that ran maxed at about 80 yrds. For the amount of lead you get down range the 9mm bullets are the most cost effective. While it is true that 9mm bullets are designed for expansion at lower velocities, a fragmenting 124 or 147 grain bullet at 2600-2700 fps is sure to do way more damage than a 55 grain hp at 3000 fps that people have been taking deer with by the thousands. this is as of 10-24-19. I have done so many times. The 300 Blackout data was with a 16″ barrel, and the rest were with 20″ barrels. Then I thought a whole new rifle cartridge and rifle, a sleek classy smaller .35 caliber rifle something better (arguably) than the .35 Remington, couldn’t have been more wrong. Designers had the goal of a certain performance. Internal damage done is very similar to 30/30. Why not .357 or .358, which are more common to existing .35 caliber rifle rounds?”. Now it’s popular, once the limited availability went away. If I lived South of the shotgun line in Michigan, I would already have a .350 Legend for Deer hunting. I think that the greatest fault of this cartridge was the choice to go with a .355-357 bullet instead of a .358, but that’s just me. Over a million rds fired even at….well, you have a shooting budget and time to be envied. What ammo maker doesn’t load 9mm? Current machines can do it easily and fast and ammo prices are about what .223 are. Randy the 350L is perfectly legal for deer hunting in Iowa. As long as it is allowed in my state for deer hunting I dont care what it is called. Yes, it may take some testing and adjustment but they will work just like they do in a PCC. Super Suppressed Subsonic ammo and it will not stabilize in anything but a 1:10 or faster twist. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The age class of deer would drop overnight if everyone could shoot common calibers. This platform fits the bill. The Mod 9 is the next generation of the notorious CGS Kraken, which also made waves when it was originally introduced. What is your address? Slugs are not as accurate in real life like people claim. Additionally, some reloaders have asked if they can reload 350 Legend using various component bullets that are already on the market. My oldest, who is 14, can obviously handle his 20 gauge. What I don’t want to see is everyone in the state being able to shoot deer at 500 yards and dropping to age class of deer to that of Wisconsin. My 45 Colt is sweet but for me a 80yr brush gun. No matter, a dedicated 250 yrd Deer/Hog gun is not in any way crazy. Less recoil than 450 Bushmaster. Purchased Pacific .358 chamber reamer. #2 Low recoil Heck, I like the concept! A lever 44 mag or 45 Colt is nice but the 450 and 350 easily double the range. If I didn't already have a 450 BM for hunting back in Ohio and two 300 BO's for suppressed sub-sonic fun I would serious consider the 350 Legend. I actually have done custom .401″ jacketed rifle bullets up to 300 grs. With decades of experience, innovation, quality, honest business ethics and a customer first attitude, Gemtech has grown to the world's leading suppressor company. I checked head space and it is fine. Any other states = 35 Rem Lever Marlin for a woods gun. I built an AR pistol to keep handy for bears. I have read that about 90% of all hunting in the US is white tail deer and most are taken within 100 yards. I’m not trading in my 30-06 for an AR for deer….. coyote hunters can use 50 bmg if they want. More energy than 30-30 Win., 300 Blackout and 223 Remington. My experience is that 35 caliber rifles [35 Whelen and 1 in 15 twist especially] can do quite well with a slower twist than the charts say will work. Why am I getting the feeling this was a committee designed project? I image that if you added up the number of shoots taken while coyote hunted and compared them to the number of shoots taken deer hunting it would be drastic. As for ammunition availability: I think that’s why you’re seeing so much talk about bullet size. The manufacturer first launched its American Whitetail .350 Legend with 170 gr Interlock bullet in April 2019. .223 Remington in a youth model Ruger American would be the go to here. The Wolfman is considered a carbine silencer first and foremost, while it still works on a handgun. Next day I got one to and I’m not looking back. I’m a reloader too, and I have never worked with a cartridge that has a – of .003 up and -..003 down. Lighter to carry too. HHmmm at first I thought not, but one can make an argument. I already already own a SilencerCo Octane 9 can, and this Rugged suppressor offers some interchangeability with some pistons and mounts as well as upgradable in the future. It just goes to prove that everyone has a different way of looking at things. Although you referred to young shooters you didn’t bring up old shooters like me. Best to shoot some before making claims. 556 is ridiculous loud in a pistol. (IMO) Like the 30-30, most wounding is due to not getting both lungs and/or the heart. Just not in this area from Nov 15- 30. Dont like the bullet offerings buy a swager which is on sale right now at mid south shooters. Price this week was $230……..I ordered a magazine or 2, and am ready to pull my pins when they come back in stock. Being able to use 9mm bullets is going to be an AWESOME thing for this cartridge. For reloading for hunting it would be no great difficulty to swage some .358 hunting bullets down to .356. The stock is adjustable so any it fits any stature shooter. A cartridge and carbine made from 1907 – 1957 that was a very popular round for hunting, police, and even some early military use. 9mm was the right move for this cartridge. I live in Michigan and have 6 kids 14 and under whom I plan to introduce to deer hunting. And light-weight rifles shooting modest bullet weights at modest velocities is such a welcome change because they eliminate the “hassle” of muzzleloaders and greatly reduce recoil compared to shotguns. Final verdict: Because of its size and modularity, the Dead Air Wolfman is optimal on a PCC or 9mm rifle, while still performing well on a handgun. Excellent points, but I did get on the .327 Federal Magnum train and liked it so much I bought another one. At best it’s comparable to the older .30-30 loads. Cartridges designed to meet specific weird hunting laws for 3 states are extreem niche cartridges. Both the Legend and the .30-­30 produce around 1,800 foot-­pounds (ft.-­lbs.) The SAMI specs are available for everyone to see so its odd so many people make so many comments without looking first. In ‘straightwall’ zones the bottlenecks are out. Also, most .357 bullets will work just fine as they are. I think it’s because of the reality of the situation with rifle bullets and handloading. Its stainless and aluminum construction has made Rugged’s Obsidian a popular choice due to its perfect balance between lightweight and durable. Double lung on both, clear pass through. All I am using the 350Legend build for is shooting paper or steel but I’m not sure if I can use these bullets for reloading because I can’t find any load data for a bullet that light. I bought a BCA upper in the 350 legend and instantly purchased the Winchester XP hunting round for the 350 legend but didn’t know the 150 gr. What has happened to American common sense? Now you may be wondering what the best 9mm silencers were in 2019, since you, like us, enjoy nerding out on the most popular suppressors. For myself the 450 BM is a game changer. It is very easy to push a jacketed .358″ bullet through a “LEE .358″ cast bullet sizer”. These areas are vast and the straight-walled cases quickly overtook traditional options. It could do both jobs well enough for what I want to use them for. Start grouping test soon. I’ve just completed a 350 legend build! That is until you start researching it. But out here, bolt guns rule. I bought a Ruger Compact Ranch in 350 just because I didn’t have one. There aren’t many to be had and they just cost A CRAP TON. THE WORLD’S FASTEST STRAIGHT-WALLED CARTRIDGE First introduced at the 2019 SHOT Show by Winchester Ammunition, 350 Legend delivers more energy than a 30-30, with less recoil than 450 Bushmaster. Glad your driving home the “because its legal in Ohio” because so many 357 Maximum fans seem to be offended because its so similar. All of my SICO ASR’s will work on the 350 Legend, as they are factory bored to .375 (3/8″). Is that really their concern? If you are not 100% satisfied with your suppressor after your Form 4 is approved, you may return it to Silencer Shop for a full refund (in the form of a Gift Certificate) of the silencer (minus Tax Stamp) within 90 days of your Form 4 approval date. rifle for sale at any store. Gemtech began as a super group of already leading suppressor designers with roots in the suppressor business going back to 1976. For hunting its easier to use 10 round cmmg’s – never had a problem feeding and easier to walk through timber. I want to be able to use .358 bullets without the hassle or controversy. If Hornady lists .355 on their box, it’s not legal in Iowa. If cartridge length is a problem (due to regulations), one might try a lever rifle or a single-shot in .44-40 or .45 Colt – with the right bullets (such as Hornady’s LeverRevolution), they’d be fine for deer out to 150 yards or so. Look at the specs and if you get a chance match a 380 to the legend. When you claim the 150 grain 30-30 has more energy than the 350 Legend, you are comparing a 24-inch 30-30 barrel against a 20-inch 350 Legend barrel. I never really liked it, it was just the least obnoxious in an AR pistol. I think the 357 comparison is getting carried away, the 360 Legend is hotter than the hottest 357 MAX. along with pickups and cb radios. I was excited about 350 Legend because I could use it with my suppressor on a modern platform. Looking back through history, in a free market, rounds get popular due to one of three ways. Instantly you have a special .355″ rifle bullet. I have both bullet components–the hornady’s mic in at .355–the winchesters the same or even a tad less. Winchester states .357 diameter and Hornady states .355. AR uppers not included in this post because I don’t have an AR so have not done any research. Who knows…….. Lots of questions about why the lower caliber (.355 not. Winchester 350 Legend – 11/16×24 Ended up with a 18″ SS, 5R rifling barrel from MOS-TEK. Why would you say the 350 Legend would have been the go to as far as a Military round if it existed before WWII… Check on the 351 Winchester it is so similar and it did exist in the early 1900’s and was mostly used by the Police covering on the chain gangs. Additonally, there is no risk of accidental chambering in a 5.56 chamber like .300 Whisper. Basically, they’re OK if the box says .357 (the legal minimum) even if the bullet diameters are smaller (like .355). Read More » SUBSCRIBE FOR MORE. The rifled slug guns were going for over $600 earlier this year. Which isn’t likely to happen, due to the nature of proprietary products. I have owned and shot an ar 350 for about a million rounds. Almost blew my gun up and hornady said too bad! SAAMI says that the Legend can have bullets ranging from .354 to .357. The only bullets my local store had was 9 mm 115gr xtp’s. The 357 AR crowd can attest to how well the cartridge works. Could it? This cartridge is just weird. If Winchester would have had ammo available [ all bullet weights] when they announced it and released the specs, we would all be better off. I found it easier to just buy some 5 round mags made by C Products Defense. I guess I need a different buffer, but with the good performance from the cheaper Hornadays Ill just stick to them. NOT! I would typically agree that a firearm used for hunting purposes may not see 100 shots in its lifetime, but the fact that this round (like the 450BM) was made to fit sporting rifles opens up a significantly larger group of customers. I ran a stability calculator for various weights and BC and muzzle velocities with a 1:16 twist barrel and the result were disappointing unless the bullet stayed supersonic. Whitetail deer aren’t monsters. Ask Josh: Do I Need A 6.5 Creedmoor To Shoot Long Range? Here is where the 450BM and 350L make good sense. The other part that to me is more important is a conservation effort. I’ve written a number of articles on that cartridge and know just how it works with anything from swaged down .458″ .45-70 bullets in the 400 grain range to cheap plated lead subsonics for range fun. I’ve been building AR’s as a hobby for only a short time and I also have just started reloading. Most all that I found are listing muzzle threads at 1/2-28. With my muzzleloader it is one shot one kill. All that matters to me is the effectiveness of the cartridge… my son and I both put deer down with authority. It’s popular due to its modularity and durability. The rest of us hunt deer with normal cartridges. Two identical 350 builds and have a similar problem of not chambering some ammo, but chambering other ammo fine. JES has rebored a few bolt guns so far, 1 with the Shooter provided 358 reamer, the others with SAMI 357 reamer on a cut riffled 358 bore. Does what the .357 magnum does but with less recoil and extra rounds. Same for the .357 and .44 Magnums. (I meet the nicest, most polite people ever – at the range.) Back to “so what”…..gives? And the differing standards – it’s classic Winchester brain-trust. If that wasn’t the case they would have used a rimmed case which would have provided positive headspacing. 5.56mm 6 items.30 3 items.300 WIN MAG 1 item.338LM 1 item; Full Auto Rated. our experience with over 30 bores especially is that they have little to do with the the real world. (for use in the .401 WSL) from .41 Magnum and .405 Winchester bullets done in a like manner. I cannot see any other reason for the strange bore diameter, other than for Winchester to keep it a proprietary round. I heard that Winchester stated that their 350 legend ammo is .357 on all their info about their hunting ammo and that was what is going to make their round legal here in Iowa. I suspect those who jumped the gun, got some ammo and made their bore and reamer to match instead of waiting for the Specs to be official. They are the kings of velocity, but the availability (and the high price that goes along with the limited availability) makes them a niche market. These suppressors come in many common / standard threads and calibers - like .300 Blackout, 5.56mm, 7.62mm, .338 cal and more - to fit your rifle perfectly. Unconditional Lifetime Warranty. The next hottest round would be the 357 maximum. However, I think Winchester made some critical errors in diameter and twist that will cause it to be a commercial failure. Featuring a tubeless, fully welded design, this SiCo suppressor has truly made a name for itself. In areas more densely populated, it’s better to be sure that the round will not travel very far out of sight line and endanger a house that the hunter was unable to see. Why would any cartridge of any caliber be considered only when not necked down? These are both large and small companies, so there will be plentiful variety. Most foreign made big bore airguns are for 9mm bullets (.355) instead of .357. Mike stated that the “Mod 9 is said to be one of the new quietest” out there. Sub-moa @100yrds with Winchester Deer Season XP 150 gr. I know the 458 socom’s success (as a niche) is 2 fold – first it’s shouldered (which isn’t an option in those straight-walled states it’s marketed in). Full bore .357 isn’t much fun if you don’t have at least 2 pounds of carbon or stainless steel to soak up the recoil. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. I also am not concerned with the welfare of the coyote population. Learn more about each product's characteristics. There is a basis for potential legal concern. It’s not worth it just to try and get in on one of the 2 crazy weeks that Iowa gives you to hunt with them… Better make sure my muzzle loader is sighted in. You have entered an incorrect email address! #5 Easy for anyone to become proficient with due to platform dimensions and low recoil. One of our dealer reps, Justin, stated, “the SilencerCo Octane 9 is a revamped legacy suppressor. You can drop your zip in our dealer finder and select a local dealer to browse the entire site though! Deer season means family, friends and food. Personally I’m not a fan of a .223 for deer but certainly realize a lot of people are doing it successfully. “should have waited for the spec to be out for the chamber.” Or maybe the manufacturers should have stopped dangerous components and specs from getting out into the wild? The low sectional density does not seem to be a real world issue as long as you don’t try to shoot stem to stern, which is a piss poor shot anyhow. So how did the new SilencerCo XXXXXXX sound? The 7.62×39 uses a bullet diameter of .311, which can also be used in .303 British and 7.62x54R, but not in any .30-06, .308 Win, or 300 BLK. Whyat. Suppressors 11 items. The problem with muzzleloaders is that a lot of people do not want to deal with them. © COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Below, we give you our best 9mm silencers, and the honorable mentions to the products that barely didn’t make our 2020 list. Kind of the nature of how we picked the "best" for this list but I can't argue with your choice! Works fine with both the Winchester ammo and reloaded Winchester cases with Hornady 170gr SP .355″ bullets and with new Starline brass. There was a bill trying to clarify all of this that died during funnel week in the Senate…. If I lived in Ohio, I wouldnt buy the Hornadys , but only Winchesters. Only difference is length. lbs., which is lower than normal .223 hunting and varmint loads. Note: The .350 LGND, as a concept, has the potential to be a good and popular round. Just finished a sharps 1874 in .307 Winchester. BADASS cartridge. With its larger diameter, if you’re running a glock, Dead Air's Switch Sight will be able to give you a clear sight picture. I want to like this round, but it only makes sense if I can use inexpensive 357 bullets – there aren’t any cheap 355 rifle appropriate projectiles other than 147 grain options. But we’ll see what the market says. This Dead Air silencer has been popularized for its impressive performance on pistol caliber subguns and continues to be a strong contender out of our 9mm suppressor options. Then I thought PMC hijacked the whole thing to take the project over so they could make it a metric design, nothing more than an AR15 spitting out 9mils, might be on to something. Full power non +p .357 loads will get 750-800ft/lbs at the muzzle of a 6″ revolver. Those of us that reload 9mm know that it does mostly nothing to run a .357 bullet through a .355 bore. I guess you could say it will be something new and different to experiment with at the range. Maybe you don’t know what you’re doing? This Dead Air suppressor features the smallest diameter, meaning that it clears almost every factory pistol’s sights. .223 brass and, Voila, you now have a straight wall case with more volume and a higher caliber. Why? There are so many legal straight-walled choices in Ohio, I just don’t see the point. When this was announced I thought it was pretty cool because I thought it would use commonly available components. The yotes would be happy though – lots of free meals for them! Even a 200gr. I have a bear creed arsenal in 350 legend but immediately found out that the Winchester XP hunting round in the 150 gr. No different than my previous slug gun, I never used it for any thing other that the single purpose of deer hunting. This is is not a solution looking for a problem, it is a modern and well thought out answer to current legislation in straight walled states for the white tail hunter. *accurately. Performance-­wise, the .350 Legend is almost identical to the .30-­30 Winchester in the muzzle energy category, and it beats anything the .300 Blackout can generate. The last cartridge I got excited for was .327 Federal and that never really took off. One thing that has been over looked is , where did that odd base cartridge come from? Matter of fact, the popular .300 Win Mag got created due to first handloaders (.30-338 wildcat), then Norma legitimized it with the .308 Norma Mag, which finally prodded Winchester into releasing their version. For the box or two that we use none of us will bother with reloading at a $20 box price point. I have heard of a number of reliability issues already coming to surface with the .350, especially in an AR rifle. and not swaged for neck. is a suppressor dedicated to everything 9mm, pistol or rifle, and can even perform on some higher pressure rounds like .350 legend and .300blk subsonic. Don’t speak about “the rest of us.” You don’t speak for anyone but yourself and maybe the people you know. Most interesting part of the article that most missed I bet lol (not that the rest wasn’t interesting, I just have a passing morbid curiosity for the 350 legend). I find I like one on a certain host and the other on a different though there is no rhyme or reason to it so it's likely just in my head. Usually, for optimized performance, suppressors that tend to be a little lighter help to not disrupt the balance of the gun. Or they could just buy a .357 magnum or .44 magnum rifle and be done with it. Rifles 11 items; Caliber. Finished price $674. Just like they do with 450 Bushmaster. I hunt with a 50 cal. From my research, it is the best current option available. 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With more than 30 years of experience, Temperature Masters Inc. provides residential, commercial, and industrial heating and air conditioning services. We are a family-owned-and-operated company headquartered in Sleepy Hollow that offers a full suite of HVAC services to the Northwest Suburbs of Chicago and the surrounding areas.

Our company endeavors to ensure high-quality services in all projects. In addition to the quick turnaround time, we believe in providing honest heating and cooling services at competitive rates.

Keep the temperature and humidity in your home or office at a comfortable level with HVAC services from Temperature Masters Inc. We offer same day repair services!

Hours

Mon-Sun: Open 24h

Contact Info

Phone: (847) 836-7300

Email: richjohnbarfield@att.net

Office Location: 214 Hilltop Ln, Sleepy Hollow, IL 60118

Areas We Service

Algonquin
Barrington
Berrington Hills
South Barrington
Crystal Lake
Elgin
Hoffman Estates
Lake in the Hills
Palatine
Schaumburg
Sleepy Hollow
St. Charles